I’m really enjoying Gone Girl so far. But I’m not letting myself sit down and read it because of what everyone says. I’m like scared to sit down and read all of it. Does that make sense?

You CAN go out to eat without tipping

greengoldandgrey:

There are many fast food establishments in this fine country. 

So really, it’s not about your wanting to go out to eat (because otherwise you would just go to Panera), it’s about your wanting someone to serve you.

Have I talked about my one boss I am adoring more and more?

Sports fanatic. Feminist. Just a solid guy. We always talk about abuse and dv and the entitlment of men. Anyway we went out to the bar last week and he had like a $9 tab and left a ten dollar tip.

And yes I shame people for not tipping well. But a lot of my friends have worked service industry before so they know how it goes.

dion-thesocialist:

If you have a problem with the statement, “If you can’t afford to tip, don’t eat out,” then please feel free to re-frame it as “If you can’t afford to pay someone, don’t make them work for you.”

pileofmonkeys:

I have waited tables. I’ve worked in bars. You know who tips well? The working poor, the lower middle class, and people who work or have worked in service industries. You know who tips shitty or not at all? Rich people, upper middle class people, and privileged fuckers who use their “moral opposition” to tipping to be cheap assholes. 

inlovewiththepractice:

Notice how no one’s saying it’s ethical to run out on your tab at a restaurant? But people are saying it’s ethical to not tip?

So basically, you’d still pay the restaurant owners, but when it comes to the people serving your food, suddenly, that’s too much to ask!

(Source: andikilledelevenofthem)

greengoldandgrey:

Correct me if I’m wrong (lol, I’m not), but isn’t “people should be forced to serve me for free” a much more classist attitude than “you should pay people for their work”?

"dont eat out if you cant afford to tip"

jhameia:

inlovewiththepractice:

the-goddamazon:

inlovewiththepractice:

the-goddamazon:

howtobeterrell:

clairebearology:

howtobeterrell:

is extremely classist!

tipping is really a cultural thing than it is not being able to afford to tip. 

Also it should not be the consumer’s responsibility to pay the server. They already paid for food, I wish all restaurants were forced to pay their damn employees.

That too!

I never thought about it this way. Interesting.

Yeah, no. I speak as a former restaurant employee, and no. You can buy food and cook it/prepare it at home for a lot cheaper than buying at a sit-down restaurant, where you are expected to tip. There is literally no excuse to eat at a restaurant if you aren’t going to tip. Eat fast food if you can’t tip, it’s literally against the rules to tip there. 

Look, I know the expectation that customers should subsidize restaurant owners for paying their own employees is bullshit — I’m fully for a wholesale change to how we compensate people in the service industry. But to use that as your excuse to not pay your server is disgusting. 

That person is going to go home wondering if they can make rent this month because of your cheap ass. 

So what about the people who can’t afford to buy the food they want to eat at a restaurant. Some of those ingredients aren’t cheap and not everyone actually CAN cook nor do they necessarily have the time.

I’ve worked in the food service industry too, and yeah, it’s a shitty, thankless job, but tipping isn’t compulsory despite being expected. I tip regardless, but I don’t HAVE to, and I certainly don’t tip if the service was shitty.

But saying stuff like that has the same tone of “find another job if you don’t want to get paid minimum wage”.

They want. Want is the key word. Eating fillet mignon is not a damn right. Neither is eating at Applebee’s. Eating what you want is a luxury. Eating is not, but eating restaurant food is. 

Yes, people should be able to pamper themselves once in a while, in a perfect world. But if it comes at the expense of someone else feeding themselves, fuck that, then! Eat ramen. 

Theft isn’t legal, even if you’re poor. Theft from the rich might be ethical, if not legal — but theft from the poor is never ethical. 

It would be one thing if you’re stealing from restaurant owners. You’re not. You’re stealing from restaurant employees, and you know exactly how badly restaurant employees get paid. 

It’s nothing like saying “find another job if you don’t want to get paid minimum wage”. Because no one’s forcing you to steal Olive Garden breadsticks. You’re forced to receive minimum wage if nothing else is available. You’re forced to steal from the grocery store or the corner store if you can’t get on food stamps or food stamps don’t pay for what you need. Those employees will be paid no matter how much you lift. But you’re not forced to steal from a restaurant

are we really trying to come up with blanket rules for tipping? =/

i mean, i really don’t think poor people are the majority of folks going to a restaurant that expects tipping and we know poor people are also the most generous when it comes to charity 

how about we spend within our means, both financial and psychological

if you can tip, tip, tip well, tip generously, don’t be a douche

but i don’t think it’s douchey to treat yourself once in a while even if it means you cannot contribute to the finances of others the way you would like to

and it’s always possible that this currently poor person might come into financial solvency enough to tip the next time and they’re not going to get to that place if they don’t have the mental health for it

i don’t think it’s necessary to punish poor people (thru the deprivation of such simple luxuries) for the stinginess of the middle-class and the rich

But if you can’t tip when you go out you’re forgetting that’s part of the cost of the meal. Whenever I’m debating to order something extra and wondering “can I afford to?” I always am sure to calculate a tip in there as well.

If you want to get take out and then you don’t have to tip as much, do that. Then you can have that luxury food you want without being an asshole.

cisyphus:

Slurs are not oppressive because they are offensive, they are oppressive  because slurs by nature of being slurs draw upon certain power dynamics  to remind their target of his/her/their vulnerability in a certain relation to power and as an extension of that, to threaten violence and exploitation of that vulnerability.

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